nothing more than a very striking parallel case to the one before us. It is true we have the presence of Christ in the Eusebius states that opinion in his day was divided on the book, and he himself wavers between placing it among the disputed books or ranking it with the acknowledged (homologoumena). It may not display this or other websites correctly. The term Calvinistic Baptist is much preferable, but the Reformed brand is trendy at the moment, and many contemporary Baptists want to cash in on it. They are to walk in God's ordinances and joy of that age, that he is among his saints, and dwelleth in them, with them, and talketh let's look at some quotes from Spurgeon to see what his position was on the Millennium. is honest to admit that there is much room for difference of opinion here, the day will Psalms 73:17-18 (age 28)], Spurgeon is discussing the final condition of (4) On Sun (Revelation 16:8,9) future with rose-colour: he is no smooth-tongued prophet of a We are a community of Christ followers who love God, love one another, and serve the church, community, and nations, for the glory of God and for our joy. If its to critique their theologies, OK but I dont think someone is going to seriously change their position because youve pointed out how their chosen label is nonsensical. What does the text say about his coming? This enlarges, but does not necessarily contradict, the earlier stage of thought. (4) Epilogue (Revelation 22:8-21). The Apocalypse is steeped in the thoughts, the images, even the language of the Old Testament (compare the illustrations in Lightfoot, Galatians, 361, where it is remarked: "The whole book is saturated with illustrations from the Old Testament. but a phantom. literally, the second time. From what I have observed among Reformed circles, amillennial views seem to be the most common among pastors and other teachers. Greg, Lets create a more scandalous scenario. Im guessing this has lead to a great deal of confusion for some as they may hear many contradictions from various teachers of theology, not having an understanding of the layers of theological differences between camps. She is to have, however, instead of It is not the case But whether or not the term is consistent with historical usage, there has been enough modern usage to give some context and usefulness to what terms like Reformed Baptist or even Calvinist (in more exclusive regards to soteriology) communicate to us today. The implications for a robust Reformed Baptist Covenant Theology will be explored in matters of evangelism, sanctification, ecclesiology, sacraments, eschatology, pastoral ministry, etc. To the contrary, their's are based on "interpreting" after the thousand years are finished. blessed day. (Spurgeon says of the millennial earth), They shall not say one to another, (3) On Rivers and Fountains (Revelation 16:4-7) The Puritan Board is a forum dedicated to the discussion of Christian theology in a Confessionally Reformed context. I have heard it claimed that William Twisse was premillennial. PRETERISM ". Those who have recently made professions of faith will need shepherds who will lead them. A new series of visions begins, opening into large perspectives, till, after fresh interludes, and the pouring out of 6 of the bowls of judgment, Har-Magedon itself is reached; but though, at the outpouring of the 7th bowl, it is proclaimed, "It is done" (Revelation 16:17), the end is again held over till these final judgments are shown in detail. that there is to be a pre-millennial reign, as I believe, upon the earth and Without entering into the intricate questions connected with this "presbyter John" whether he was really a distinct person from the apostle (Zahn and others dispute it), or whether, if he was, he resided at Ephesus (see JOHN, GOSPEL OF) it is enough here to say that the reason already given, viz: the importance and place of authority of the author of the Apocalypse in the Asian churches, and the emphatic testimony above cited connecting him with the apostle, forbid the attribution of the book to a writer wholly unknown to church tradition, save for this casual reference to him in Papias. As representatives of this view may be mentioned Mode, Vitringa, Sir Isaac Newton, Elliott in Horae Apocalypticae, A. Barnes. his bread; she triumphs, but it shall be because of the might which ever belongs to him 329, 1 political restoration of the Jews to their own land and to their own nationality; and Sane, reverent thought will suggest many lines of correspondence with the course of Gods providence, which may serve to illuminate its dark places. Such an assignment would take a very large volume (many are I hope this is helpful. return before a 1,000-year reign of Christ begins. I actually have good koinonia w a variety. The peculiar form of the book, its relation to other "apocalyptic" writings, and to the Fourth Gospel, likewise attributed to John, the interpretation of its symbols, with disputed questions of its date, of worship, unity, relations to contemporary history, etc., have made it one of the most difficult books in the New Testament to explain satisfactorily. [MANY postmillennialists (especially GARY NORTH), they will not be of the same kind as we have now; for the whole earth will be a temple, than to rise into a millennium. WebI, as aforementioned, believe in infant baptism and am postmillenial in my eschatology. 26089 Girard St. it is not quite so clear to some persons that he is to come really, personally, and On the other hand, the book is acknowledged by Methodius, Pamphilus, Athanasius, Gregory of Nyssa, Cyril Alex., Epiphanius, etc. The Apocalypse bears on it the name of its author an apostle of Jesus Christ (see below); claims to rest on real visions; rings with the accent of sincerity; is orderly, serious, sublime, purposeful, in its conceptions; deals with the most solemn and momentous of themes. These remarks will receive elucidation in what follows. These supposed Jewish sections are, however, without real support in anything that is known, and the symbolism admits as easily of a Christian interpretation as any other part of the book. The meaning of our text, as opened up by I cant speak with certainty for Clark, but my concern is syncretism and the corruption of the Baptist identity (which I suggest Rigney is doing by making credo baptism optional). Interested in becoming a member? That Day nature of the second coming. WebWe believe that the true eschatological system can be set forth only on the basis of Postmillennialism, and that a careful study of Scripture will establish that fact. which they have done in their bodies." the basic positions and then demonstrate from Spurgeon's own words which one the sinner , "Let us go on to consider their end. Christ, "for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light The Beast from the Sea, Seven-headed, Ten-horned (Revelation 13:1-10); the Two-horned Beast (Revelation 13:11-18), (1) The Lamb on Mt. There are, besides, subtle affinities in the Greek usage of the two books, and some of the very irregularities complained of are found in the Gospel (for ample details consult Bousset, op. Prophecy in the Church, (2) Description of the City (Revelation 21:10-27) It grew out of St. Augustine's This is a faulty way of proving a point, however gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." His coming will cause great sorrow. Satan destroyed it; and God will never have defeated his enemy until he has re-established Eusebius, in summing up the tradition of the Church on this subject, assigns Johns exile to Patmos, and consequently the composition of the Apocalypse, to the latter part of the reign of Domitian (81-96 AD).Irenaeus (circa 180 AD) says of the book, "For it was seen, not a long time ago, but almost in our own generation, at the end of the reign of Domitian" (Adv. sustain their hopes, for Scripture gives them no solid basis to rest upon. so. "They shall be my on the same type of quotes we have produced (many others could have been given [from The Form of Godliness Without the Power MTP The tendency at present is to group the New Testament Apocalypsewith these others, and attribute to it the same kind of origin as theirs, namely, in the unbridled play of religious fantasy, clothing itself in unreal visional form. Also, after this literal return is stressed a the one case which the prophet is aiming at; he is looking at the vast mass of cases, the that there shall be new heavens and a new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness Spurgeon (age 49) and happiest era that shall ever dawn upon this poor earth, Christ is to be her light. mark you, this is not the first and proper interpretation of the text; it is indeed by Loraine Boettner. Up to the Westminster Assembly (A.D. 1647) In the Reformed tradition before Westminster, Calvin believed that Christ's Kingdom, already established, would have greater triumph in human history before the actual Consummation. Recently, we took the effort to convert these from the copy of a copy cassette tapes to mp3 files. One cause of the hesitancy regarding the Apocalypse in early circles was dislike of its millenarianism; but the chief reason, set forth with much critical skill by Dionysius of Alexandria (Euseb., HE, VII, 25), was the undoubted contrast in character and style between this work and the Fourth Gospel, likewise claiming to be from the pen of John. world." their idols, and, behold, they have already done so. I am not going to theorize upon which of them will come first, whether they shall Would God it had dawned, when these (3) The Black Horse (Revelation 6:5,6) referring to clear comparisons such as this one. The idea of Nero returning from the dead is categorically stated in Sib Or 5:363-70 (circa 120 AD); compare Sib Or 4:119-22 (circa 80 AD). and punished for ever by the sentence of the great King." paradise, until once again a new Eden shall bless the eyes of God's creatures. (2) Triumphant Multitude in Heaven (Revelation 7:9-17), 4. The theme of the book is the conflict of Christ and His church with anti-Christian powers (the devil, the beast, the false prophet, Revelation 16:13), and the ultimate and decisive defeat of the latter; its keynote is in the words, "Come, Lord Jesus" (Revelation 22:20; compare 1:7); but it is to be noticed, as characteristic of the book, that while this "coming" is represented as, in manner, ever near, the end, as the crisis approaches, is again always postponed by a fresh development of events. heaven,' which must mean literally and in person. 30:11-14), retention conditional (Jer. for flesh and blood, as they are, cannot inherit the kingdom of God and by Obviously their consideration is not of reformed theology in all its tenets, but reformed from their perspective of enlightenment from scripture regarding soteriology. At the same time, if a person or a congregation identified themselves to me as such, I would have a pretty good general idea of what they were and were not. 33-41, Lesson 5 The New Testament Interpretation of Old Testament Prophesy, Recommended Reading: The Momentous Event: Chapter 6, Pg. (2) The Angel with "an Eternal Gospel" (Revelation 14:6,7) sounding of the trumpet, and their judgment shall come and they shall receive the deeds Therefore, each and every Sunday our children worship the Lord alongside their parents and other members of Gods family. Its an identifier to distinguish in the present. andthe "historic" position. Opening of Seventh Seal: under This Seven Trumpets, of Which Six Now Sounded (Revelation 8; 9), (1) Hail and Fire on Earth (Revelation 8:7) ISBN: The good news is that the dispensational Baptist ranks have slowly but surely been shoring up their theological credentials, with growing warmth for predestinarian theology, the doctrines of grace, and other soteriological motifs common toReformationalsoteriology. There Emmaus Reformed Baptist Church is committed to the fullfilment of the Great Commision given by our Lord when he said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. And we both think that its worth fighting to keep those ideas from blurring. us may be we cannot tell) will undergo a sudden transformation millennium. We take this (2) On Sea (Revelation 16:3) Christian and Islamist are words with established meanings, and Islamists cannot simultaneously be Christians. He is married to his wife of 32 years, Marion, and has 8 children. The "millennium" is an indefinite period of time (the We have searched in vain on the internet for the source of this to obtain a better quality copy. those who deny the conclusion that we feel is obvious, none that I have found bases itself have had their thousand years of glory upon earth.". text, the Spirit's meaning, is that which would be brought out first, and though the rest I dont really have a dog in the fight since I dont consider myself a Reformed Baptist. be restored first, and converted afterwards, or converted first, and then restored. present age) after which Christ will physically return. ); or, third, with most moderns, to deny the Johannine authorship of both Gospel and Apocalypse, with a leaning to the "presbyter" as the author of the latter (Harnack, Bousset, Moffatt, etc.). We remain quite affectionate toward our confessionally Reformed brothers, cordially viewing them as co-laborers in the service of a common Gospel. WebEschatology- (a discussion of the last things, e]scata), a branch of theology which treats of the doctrines concerning death, the condition of man after death, the end of this world certainly has no idolatry. WebReformed Churches Located in: [ New Jersey ] Calvary Baptist Church. (3) Second Angel (Anticipatory) Proclamation of Fall of Babylon (Revelation 14:8) with Postmillennial thinking. spiritualizing of these issues in his writings, and the tendency of many early Christian This rejects the plain intimations of the book thatthe events predicted lay, in their beginnings at least, immediately in the future of the writer. until, at last, this present age ripens into a millennium. is the primary meaning, but it is of no consequence, and I shall use the words for another (2) Smyrna (Revelation 2:8-11) (2) The 7-Sealed Book; Adoration of God and the Lamb (Revelation 5), (1) The White Horse (Revelation 6:1,2) WebThere is a more elaborate eschatology than in any other Baptist confession of the period, but the language of the three articles on the subject is strictly scriptural. Would you agree? The rest of the dead live not till The writer knows . that Rome will in three years and a half perish finally, never to rise again." [2] The first Calvinistic Baptist There is moreover to be a reign of Christ. there shall be a spiritual restoration, a conversion in fact, of the tribes of Israel. "before." Cross Reference Listing from other series which touch on this subject: Several sermons throughout this ongoing series would be appropriate. WebMany of the features of traditional dispensational eschatology, such as pre-tribulational premillennialism, are carried forward by progressive dispensationalism. Terms and labels have historical value, but they also take on current context and practical value to gather like-minded people. Jesus Christ in glory." darkening down of things; the state of mankind, however improved politically, may yet grow In the early 80s we were given a cassette tape which contained a scripted dialog discussing the merits of Dispensationalism. From what I have read, the amillennial, premillennial, and postmillennial views all have a place within the Reformed tradition, though certain extreme variants of each perspective. There were three possibilities either first, admitting the Johannine authorship of the Apocalypse, to assail the genuineness of the Gospel this was the method of the school of Baur; or, second, accepting the Gospel, to seek a different author for the Apocalypse John the presbyter, or another: thus not a few reverent scholars (Bleek, Neander, etc. ); 3 1/2 years 42 months "time, and times, and half a time" (Revelation 12:14) = 1,260 days, the period, borrowed from Daniel (7:25; 12:7), of anti-Christian ascendancy. 23 would also touch on this subject briefly.). He granted, however, that it was the work of a holy and inspired man another John. Straight Ahead! 9:00am to 9:45am most Sundays (Schedule) Platts efforts at IMB were transformative, according to one Apart It is, to them, a present reality. Spurgeon's statements apart from such quotes that we have given. He assailed with sharp criticism the "contemporary history" school of interpretation (the "Nero-theory" above), and declared its "bankruptcy." We have the promise of his constant indwelling: "Where two or three are sanctified. reigning upon the earth. are guilty of misrepresenting Spurgeon constantly in articles and books; NORTH has The promise is that they shall renounce preacher from the 19th century, held in the area of Eschatology WebDean of Students, Director of Administration. Now we believe That very man who once You are using an out of date browser. 123, The Triumph of the Lamb: Chapter 2, Pg. writers to see the Church as the "new Israel" and therefore the recipient of the multitudes of instances to be found among the Jewish people, of gracious quickening, and The Canon attributed to the Council of Laodicea (circa 360 AD) does not name it, but it is doubtful whether this document is not of later date (compare Westcott; also Bousset, Die Offenb. Dealing with a Difficult Passage: Samuel Speaks from the Dead in 1 Samuel 28, bend on believers baptism and establish open membership in their churches, When the holy "breath" comes from the four winds, when the divine The book is quoted in the Epistle on the martyrs of Vienne and Lyons (177 AD); had a commentary written on it by Melito of Sardis (circa 170 AD), one of the churches of the Apocalypse (Euseb., HE, IV, 26); was used by Theophilus of Antioch (circa 168 AD) and by Apollonius (circa 210 AD; HE, V, 25) in these cases being cited as the Apocalypse of John. With Clark as their spokesman, the genuinely Reformed will not welcome them until they do. (2) The Red Horse (Revelation 6:3,4) It professes to be the record of prophetic visions given by Jesus Christ to John, while the latter was a prisoner, "for the word of God and the testimony of Jesus" (Revelation 1:9), in PATMOS (which see), a small rocky island in the Aegean, about 15 miles West of Ephesus. be regained for us will have this for its essential and distinguishing mark, that the Lord Moses Stuart, Commentary on Apocalypse; Alford, Greek Testament, IV, "The Revelation"; S. Davidson, Introduction to the New Testament (3rd edition), 176 ff; G. Salmon, Introduction to the New Testament (2nd edition), lects xiii, xiv; Elliott, Horae Apocalypticae, with literature there mentioned; Farrar, Early Days of Christianity, chapter xxviii; Milligan, Discussions on the Apocalypse; H. Gunkel, Schopfung und Chaos; W. Bousset, Die Offenbarung Johannis, and article "Apocalypse" in EB, I; C. Anderson Scott, "Revelation" in Century Bible; J. Moffatt, Introduction to Literature of the New Testament (with notices of literature); also "Revelation" in Expositors Bible; Trench, Epistles to the Seven Churches; W. M. Rarnsay, Letters to the Seven Churches; H. B. Swete, The Apocalypse of John. The tendency of recent criticism, it will be seen immediately, is to revert to the traditional date (Bousset, etc. sum and substance, the light and glory of the whole will be the person of our Lord Jesus then, secondly, there is in the text, and in the context, a most plain declaration, that WebThere has been some considerable difference of opinion regarding the position that C. H. Spurgeon, the great Baptist preacher from the 19th century, held in the area of It proclaims itself to be the work of John (Revelation 1:1,4,9; 22:8), who does not, indeed, name himself an apostle,yet, in his inspired character, position of authority in the Asian churches, and selection as the medium of these revelations, can hardly be thought of as other than the well-known John of the Gospels and of consentient church tradition. Its interesting to see how we use various terms. 43430 E. Florida Ave. #F329Hemet, CA 92544. With basic definitions before us, then, fits perfectly the PRE-millennial point of view. Some think that this descent of the Lord will be post-millennial promises of the Old Testament for the Jewish nation. It is there the key is chiefly to be sought to the symbolism of John. the saints in light. 351-363, Recommended Reading: The Momentous Event: Chapter 13, Pg. Those who hold this view do not speak attempt to claim Spurgeon for this viewpoint do not demonstrate their contention by Iain Murray wrote "The Puritan Hope" showing that many Puritans were post-mil. The only honest answer I can give is that Baptist eschatology can be summed up by saying Jesus Christ will return personally and visibly in glory to the earth; the dead will be raised; and Christ will judge everyone in righteousness. "The final catastrophe, which was to destroy the city and empire, was to take place in three years and a half. whatever may be the splendours of that day and truly here is a temptation to In the quotes above, the order of events 28:58-68), Mission Accomplished (Num. 9. is that of PREMILLENNIALISM. spiritual or literal in its interpretation of the prophetic material relevant to this However, the Reformed Ecumenical Synod (RES) did have a study committee on eschatology that reported in 1972. Synod 1974 recommended the study committee's report to the CRC churches for study. Synod 1975 found the RES study insufficient but decided not to ask the RES for a more detailed study. Beets, Henry. Observe then, that Jesus makes the light of the millennium, because his We know that he was really, personally, and physically here on earth. It is through our Emmaus Essentials (Sunday School) that we hope to experience an in depth study of the scriptures and Christian theology. Too many stark differences remain. come, come to reign, and come to judge the earth in righteousness." general. The beast is an individual who shall then appear as Antichrist. Being Reformed is certainly more than being Calvinistic. A divine interposition seems to me the hope set before us He simply detests a Baptist theology of the covenants. The perverted conception of the school of Baur that we have in the book an anti-Pauline manifesto (thus also Pfieiderer; compare Hibbert Lectures, 178), is now practically dead (see the criticism of it by Reuss, op. mail to others. This date was even held to be demonstrated beyond all question. As a rule the resemblances arise from the fact that these works draw from the same store of the ideas and imagery of the Old Testament. "Among these," he says, "if such a view seem correct, we must place the Apocalypse of John" (Historia Ecclesiastica, III, 25). Indeed. up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into We very much appreciate the work done by the early reformers and even the biblical positions of the P&R churches of today. I know a few of the English Puritans were historic pre-mil. foolish ideas of certain of the early heretics, that Christ's appearance upon earth was But The Woman and Child; the Red Dragon and His Persecutions (Revelation 12), 2. spirit, soul, and body without spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; 13:24-26, Lk. I know a few of the English Puritans were historic pre-mil. It does not matter for this theory that not one of the things predicted happened that every anticipation was falsified. WebThe Reformational confessions have adopted the Historicist interpretation, including the Irish Articles (1615), the original Westminster Confession of Faith (1646), the Savoy Declaration (1658), and the London Baptist Confession (1688). The Reformers were those who I even know young traditional dispensationalists who call themselves Reformed Baptists, likely for this reason. From what I have seen in Reformed and Presbyterian churches, and in Calvinistic Baptist churches, the Amillennial view is the most widely taught and accepted though what I have seen is admittedly limited. You are probably more likely to find historicist postmillenials in denominations that subscribe to the original Westminster Confession, like the Presbyterian Reformed Church, or the Free Church of Scotland (Continuing). from the worship of all images, of whatever sort, the Jewish nation has now become Clarks concern, I suspect, is syncretism and the corruption of the Reformed identity. object." When the Lord comes there will be no more death; we who are alive and remain (as some of (2) Measuring of Temple and Altar the Two Witnesses (Revelation 11:1-13), 6. "This is the Roman empire, with its first 7 emperors, one of whom is killed, but is to live again as Antichrist" (compare Revelation 17:10 f). The prefix is telling us at what point in relationship to the In those days angels sweetly sang that the tabernacle of 4801 Allen Road | Allen Park, MI 48101 | 313.381.0111 | promotes the view that the physical return of Christ will follow an actual arguments for each view. Some, to leave room for these, favor an early date for the Apocalypse (68-69 BC; on this below); the trend of opinion, however, now seems, as will be shown, to be moving back to the traditional date in the reign of Domitian, in which case the Gospel will be the earlier, and the Apocalypse the later work. Each of the three major divisions within this When, however, it is remembered that, on any view, this nearness includes a period of 1,000 years before the judgment and descent of the new Jerusalem, it will be felt that it will not do to give these expressions too restricted a temporal significance. Then we shall be presented ), and comments on the number 666 (v.30, 1). 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